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SEASON FINALE: Embracing Body Positivity: A Journey of Self-Love and Acceptance with Bri Campos
Join host Taisha Shedden on another empowering episode of "The Found Life Podcast" as she dives deep into the transformative world of body positivity. In this illuminating interview, Tanisha sits down with Bri Campos, a licensed professional counselor and body grief specialist and body positivity guru who empowers women to embrace self-love and acceptance.
In a society that often imposes unrealistic beauty standards, this episode explores the emotional journey many women undertake when faced with the perceived loss of their idealized bodies. Bri Campos shares her expertise on guiding women through the process of grieving societal expectations and learning to appreciate their bodies for what they are.
From discussions about the cultural impact of body image to the practical steps individuals can take towards self-acceptance, this episode is a powerful exploration of the challenges and triumphs within the body positivity movement. Tanisha and Bri discuss insights, strategies, and personal anecdotes that inspire listeners to break free from societal constraints and love themselves unconditionally.
Tune in to "The Found Life Podcast" and join the conversation as we navigate the complexities of body grief, celebrate body positivity, and discover the beauty of embracing the uniqueness that makes each of us truly extraordinary. It's time to redefine beauty standards and embark on a journey towards self-love and acceptance.
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Hi, this is the found life podcast. With me, your host, tanisha Shedden, I always wondered why so many people have found healing and found their freedom in so many different ways. As a counselor and coach and speaker, I have stayed curious and listened and learned about so many stories of hope, healing and perseverance, and that's what this show is all about. We talk all things overcoming self-love, self-help and self-discovery. What you do to keep going is something I want to explore. This is a place just for you. This is for healers from all walks of life. This is the found life Podcast. Healing is a journey. You are not alone and you got this healer All right. Hey, bree, how's it going? I am so excited to talk to you today. I would like to know more about you, just for our listeners sake. Tell, tell me more about you and what you do. I know that your body positive and that you are. You do things like through the process of grief. You're all about body grieving. Can you tell us who you are and what body grieving is?
Speaker 2:I would love to tell you so for those who don't know who I am. My name is Brianna Campos. I always say my friends get to call me Bree and that's why I have an Instagram body image with Bree, and I am a Licensed professional counselor. I live in New Jersey I joke that, like my heart bleeds, cheetah print like Jersey, through and through and Let it. I would love to talk about body grief.
Speaker 2:As someone who exists in what I identify as a fat body or a large body, I Really struggled with the messages of body positivity, especially coming From people who didn't look like me or didn't have my experience, and it wasn't just as easy as accepting my body.
Speaker 2:In order to Make peace with the body that I exist in, I had to grief.
Speaker 2:I had to allow myself to sit in the suck of things that felt hard Around my body. So, like my working definition for body grief is Is the perceived loss associated with body change. And it's such an expansive definition because it can be more than just your body gaining weight. It can be you know different hormonal things happening. It can be, you know, when your body is aging and there's change and it is it is the distress of the perceived loss. It can be you know it can be when you gain weight or your body gets bigger and you no longer are societally acceptable. I don't think that a lot of the body positive conversation allows for people to be like, wait a second, the system is messed up and no matter how much I accept my body, this is gonna be hard for me, and what I have found is yes, it is gonna be hard for me, but the thing that is no longer making it hard is me being mean to myself or me struggling with Hating the body that I can't change.
Speaker 1:I Think that is so beautiful. I thank you so much for describing that, because I think something that a lot of people don't understand is what that means. Right is that we have to grieve the loss of the idea of having this ideal body, no matter what it is. And Whether you quote-unquote lose the weight or get the ideal body Right, you are still going to have to grieve certain things.
Speaker 1:Honestly, even if you do get to the ideal body your, it's interesting how deep-rooted self-hatred actually is, and Most people find that when they reach that ideal body, they still don't feel any more Self-love than they that they did before. They might have a little bit more confidence, they might feel a little bit, you know, like oh, I got the thing that I wanted, but they actually Never feel the sense of self-love that comes from grieving the fact that your worth is tied to a specific body type, and I think body-grieving work is for everyone, no matter what size you are. People really come for it like they're like no, you should force yourself to be a certain way, but, honestly, it is so important to get to the self-acceptance place. It's actually better if you got to that place of I Grieve having to be perfect the way I see perfect is, if you grieve that before you go on whatever journey it is that you want to take your body on, your, your outcomes are going to be better. Anyway, you're gonna feel. That's what's gonna make you feel better.
Speaker 2:Well, that's my experience, because you know, for folks who know me and have been following me I actually have weight loss surgery. Many years ago I was 19 when I that's so young, they gave you weight loss surgery.
Speaker 1:Let you have weight loss surgery at 19, yeah yeah yeah, it's insane. I Look back now and I'm like oh, a doctor should never look at a 19 year old and say, yep, we're gonna do weight loss surgery. That's. That's so young. It seems like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And what's wild to me is so I made a tip-talk Recently talking about my experience and the amount of people who are coming for me of like You're just making excuse it, and I was like no, this is my lived experience. It has almost almost a million views and a lot the comments are are vile.
Speaker 1:I Actually saw that. I actually saw that, and I do think it that's ridiculous, because that that's actually all the things that you said in that video are reasons why they are very careful about who they give it to.
Speaker 2:Now, at least what I've seen- learned from what they have done that when they did because I remember asking my doctor, like all of these concerns, and he just talked about all of the positives and didn't talk about the harm that could happen. It was just oh well, you could regain weight. And so I did lose some weight and I got so many compliments from people and I remember Still hating my body, hating myself. It became something where I was like I was so obsessed with like, okay, but I don't like this part. I don't like this part. And I Remember asking a family member who I knew had had had the surgery as well. I was like, when does the body hatred start, wait or stop? And they said, oh, there's, there's no surgery for that. And so I was like, oh no, like I thought Getting a smaller body was gonna make me hate my body less. And then Fast forward several years later when I regained the weight and hated that body and I looked back at that smaller version that I hated. I was like how is that possible? How did I hate that body when I was in it? But I can look back and be like what was I thinking? And that's when I realized that this is the trap of perception is that I think that we are the most critical of Ourselves, and what I have found is that you know, especially when you're losing weight, what's different about when you're in a larger body.
Speaker 2:People are complimenting you all of the time. People are praising you and praising your body. That's got to affect your mental health and your self-esteem, but then it also adds this undue pressure of like but what happens if this changes? Then this is gonna go away or they're gonna judge me. So it's not even like it feels good.
Speaker 2:So what I'll say is nobody compliments my body anymore, but when people compliment me, I can receive it now because I believe it too. So if people are like hey, it's really cool that you run your own business, I'm like yeah, it's cool as opposed to something. Yeah, as opposed to something that I have no control over, like my body size. And if somebody were to compliment my body now like there's, I can think of a family friend. Every time there's a family party. Every time I go, it's like have you lost weight? Did you lose weight? You look good? And I'm like it's like how do I respond to this? And so oftentimes I'll be like nope, didn't lose weight, but I'm doing really good, though, and just trying to move away from centering people just talking about our bodies as normal.
Speaker 1:I totally agree. I think it is interesting how people will do that and I try. It's interesting how ingrained that's been in myself. I've had to unlearn, I know, have you lost weight? Yeah, cause everybody just kind of does it and you're like, oh, like it can be. It's just interesting.
Speaker 1:Like I have a friend that you know when I noticed that when I hang out with them they're always worried about their food. They're always talking about what they will eat, really anxious when we look at a menu anywhere or go to a grocery store or you know, and so I really try to avoid those conversations specifically around that person, because I'm like you don't think you got issues, you think you're trying to be healthy, but you got issues. You are so scared of food, like really, and you know, I think it's just hard to navigate that and to see how other people navigate that Cause. For me, I think I've come a long way and I've definitely grieved certain things and I definitely decided that you know, when I go on whatever journey, like I love fitness. I actually work out every day and a lot of people would assume by my body size I think I'm big. Right, I'm a big girl, I am six feet tall also, and like a size 18, you know. So that tells you I'm big and people will assume that I can't do certain things with my body because of the size. Like I'll go try a new class and like I'll get a lot of attention but I'm not new, and so they'll see how much I can lift and then leave me alone.
Speaker 1:But you know, I've decided that if I decide that I'm gonna go on a cut or whatever I'm gonna do with my body, it's for performance purposes. And also I decided that I'm gonna determine like a list of what this will do for me and what this won't do for me, right? So if I decided to lose weight, it will. I will increase my mobility. You know, throughout that process because of what I'm doing right, it's not necessarily because my body's smaller, it's just because of the process. I will. I don't know I will accomplish something. I will feel accomplished because I didn't Like I'll hit a car. It won't feel, yeah, exactly, I hit a PR. But I decided that the list of will nots, it will not make me happy, it will not increase my sense of self-love, because other things do that. That's an inside thing. You can change whatever you want on the outside, whatever you want, but you're not gonna feel differently because emotions are an inner process.
Speaker 2:What I tell people all the time is like you have body autonomy. If you want to, you know be able to lift a certain weight. If you wanna change your body composition to, you know hit a certain PR. Like you have full autonomy to do this. And what I say to folks is but let's be clear that the messaging that we're taught, like changing your body composition for health versus changing your body composition because you wanna see if you can do it. I also think that you know, for folks who live in what I would say fairly typical or normal bodies, which, believe it or not, in the United States, I don't know where you're located.
Speaker 1:I'm in.
Speaker 2:Utah. In Utah, in the United States, a size 16, 18 is a standard size for a woman, so meanwhile it's considered plus size. But that's neither here nor there. A lot of what you see in the body positivity world is like people who lose maybe like five or 10 pounds and they're like if I can do it, so can you. And that's not the case.
Speaker 2:And for somebody like me, who I would say really struggles with like an eating disorder, disordered eating, it's not wise for me to do that and for me, my autonomy is allowing myself not to, and your decision to should not impact my decision not to. And that's the autonomy is you get to do what you wanna do. I get the decision to not. And I used to do a lot of fitness, but it was rooted in the wrong thing. It was rooted in I didn't wanna experience those microaggressions at the gym I'll never forget. I was working out and this man came up to me and he was like I just want you to know that I'm really proud of you and it's gonna get easier. And I was pissed because I'm like I've been working out since I was 17.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:I have no idea how long I've been moving my body and I was starting my trainer about it. She said but he didn't mean anything about it. I was like, but that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter because the assumption is because I'm in a larger body. This is my first time working out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people do assume that a lot. It's interesting, or people you know, people do with people, People, people.
Speaker 1:I like to say people are giggling and sometimes when people, people, I'm like those are thinking thoughts. I'm actually at the point in my life where I probably would say that out loud to someone who says something that I was like don't go there. Those are thinking I love that. Yeah, I definitely, definitely noticed that. Anyway, I'm curious about when you work with people where do you even start when it comes to body grieving, where do you even start?
Speaker 2:It's a great question. I have a formula for body grief that I just found can be really easily repetitive, and so my formula for body grief is building awareness plus active on learning over time in community. So what does that look like? So, let's say, a client is like OK, brie, I'm really struggling with my relationship with movement. I want to move, but I also want to honor my autonomy not to. I will say, ok, well, let's explore what some of the thoughts are that come up around not moving and if they are correlated at all in self-worth or love. I actually just did this example on my Instagram, because folks are talking about. Somebody had asked me like I'm really grieving seeing photos of my body, and so I said get out your piece of paper or pull up the note section of your phone and I want you to write this question down and I want you to take a few minutes to explore this thought of what is the story that I'm telling myself about this larger-bodied photo of myself? What is the story I'm telling myself about not moving For me?
Speaker 2:I remember it was during the pandemic where I realized I used to go to a gym. I liked going to the gym because it was community. I liked going to the gym because there was, for me, it was a way to manage my anxiety and my stress because I was on Medicaid. I never realized, oh actually the medication, but I just like, hey, this works and I feel better when I do it. And so I kept doing it. And then, when I couldn't leave my house, the house workouts weren't cutting it, they weren't doing the same thing.
Speaker 2:And so very quickly I lost that strength and there was a narrative that was playing out for me and it was like uh-oh. And so when I really explored what story I was telling myself it was I don't want other people to see me as less able and what I had to recognize is, wow, that's actually rooted in ableism. Like I would never look at a person who is like can't lift, you know, like they used to, and be like hm, that's so sad. It would be like OK, like something else happened in their life, that this is no longer a priority. And so that's when the active unlearning I had to start unlearning my story about movement, that if it was between being disordered with movement or allowing myself to find a different practice for movement, or even just giving myself unconditional permission not to move at this time, then I was going to allow it. And you making a decision to make a cut for PR should not influence my decision over my autonomy.
Speaker 2:And what I find is that a lot of folks are making the decision to move or to do these things not for themselves.
Speaker 2:It's because they don't want to appear a certain way, especially if they exist in a super large or a super fat body like myself, and so it's those sizes that are beyond like you might not be able to get clothes in a store, or you have to go to a specific store to be able to buy clothes those folks are like. But I don't want to be othered again, and what I want my clients to do is I want them to recognize that anger or that fear can be turned into anger, but it shouldn't be internalized. It should be externalized at the system, because it's designed this way. If 67% of women in the United States wear a size 16, 18, that shouldn't be considered plus size, that should be considered the standard size. So why isn't that being catered to? And the reason is because of the anti-fat bias that exists, or the fat phobia that exists in the world.
Speaker 2:People can profit off of that. It is a profitable, and then there's capitalism and that is all these things. Anger doesn't have to be directed at you. It can be directed at the system.
Speaker 1:I like that. I like that approach because I think it's identifying misplaced anger and it's also identifying our own thought processes or influenced by that system that says you have to lose weight and they make so much. Speaking of capitalism, I mean, it's true, the fitness industry and many other industries make money off of women, and actually men too. Really, especially with the whole aesthetic, I've got to be double jacked and the whole idea of just being a mass monster, which I'm not against. I work out with a lot of people no bodybuilders but I think, at the end of the day, the system is making so much money up of telling people that the way you are doesn't work, and it goes in both ways.
Speaker 1:I think so many people are just constantly thinking about their bodies and I think it's interesting how much backlash there is about saying, hey, hold up, wait. What if we didn't think about our bodies all the time? What if we didn't obsess over what it looks like all the time and maybe focused on what it does for us and how it carries us through life and all of those things? And people are like they're just angry and I'm wondering what is that? I don't know. What does that look like, feel like? What does that experience like for you as a professional and personal, when people are constantly angry about you? Shouldn't be? I know that a lot of the comments are like you shouldn't be enabling people to be fat. How dare you? Because being fat is so fucking offensive.
Speaker 2:To me. I think it's a little bit comical, because it would be like me saying to you, taneisha, it's fine for you to do what you want to do, but you're promoting tallness. By being six feet tall, honestly, I was able to shrink myself, so you should be promoting that Just by merely existing that. Somehow I'm like I want everyone in the world to be fat with me. That's not what I'm doing. I just wanted to stop obsessing over food and my body and I was putting my life on hold in order to do something. If it would have worked, it would have worked for me Because I was so dedicated. I was so dedicated and it's funny now too, because it's like I'll hear my family talk and they're like oh, this person in my family was really large and I'm like great, nobody could have told me that this was a part of my genetic. Like maybe it skipped a couple generations, but this was what was coming towards me. And so when I get that negative feedback to me, I'm just like all right, the haters get to pay my bills, because I'm going to make some content about that. When my clients experience it, it double confirms for them like this is wrong. Like this is why I need to make my body smaller.
Speaker 2:And that's where that community piece comes in, because if you're only around people who are confirming that, yeah, you should be in a smaller body and that your health is at risk because of the body size that you're in, it's hard not to fall prey to like well then, maybe I am doing something wrong. I mean, I just I'll even even recall like I went away on a trip with some friends who were all dieting and like I was like it's not gonna bother me, and I realized like wow, it actually does. Like I'm starting to like pick up old habits again and be like I don't want to eat in front of other people because they are not eating, because they're not hungry, because I said I was hungry and they're like, oh, I'm not, and it's like, no, like it would be like if, if they needed to go to the back, if I needed to go to the bathroom, they're like, well, I don't need to go to the bathroom. No, like, but it's so hard when you're, when you're, submerged in that community.
Speaker 2:And that's why I think that community piece is so healing, because I can be far more compassionate to you than I might be able to for myself. I might be more compassionate or understanding to a loved one or to you know, I always tell my clients you know the way I'll pass. You know, does it pass the vibe check? If I wouldn't say it to my niece or my nephew, it's probably not something I should be saying to myself.
Speaker 2:And then what? How do we reframe that? How do we say that different? A lot of body grief is just allowing yourself to change the way that you speak to yourself, because I do believe that a lot of the body image wounds at its core are self esteem issues and a lot of flak. I'll get back on the online of like. Not all weight loss is body image issues and I can't speak for every experience. I can just speak. I can speak for mine.
Speaker 2:So yeah and the hundreds of clients that I've worked with who have had the same experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I totally like, I totally understand that. I think I think a lot of things I've had to be very careful in my fitness journey. I promised myself that I wouldn't be well, I wouldn't go on a cut ever again from the viewpoint of aesthetic. I promised myself that because, yeah, it just I knew that I wouldn't be able to do it like mentally, like I knew it would be a very harmful challenge if I went down that road from that perspective. You know what I mean. Because, yeah, because I think there's so much you have to really cancel out noise and stuff. Like, like, do something because you want to, not because other people's reactions to you are like a certain way.
Speaker 1:I have always kind of had this awareness of how other people respond to me in my body and I'm just like, what is your deal? Like I'm not to me, I'm not even that big. I really don't think I'm that big Like. I'm like, like you said, average size, like 18. I don't really think that I'm not big. But there have been times when people are like they just responded a certain way that made me feel like, am I like bigger than I think I am? Like you must, like, you know what I mean, and I painted it in a bad way too, like I was like why are you acting like I am? Like like doctor's offices is an example. I have no. Like I have endometriosis and PCOS, but other than that I actually have no comorbidities.
Speaker 1:I mean like I don't have any other diagnosis, I don't have high blood pressure or anything like that, and like this doctor one time was just pushing weight loss so hard and then and I was like dude, you didn't even look at my hormones. So I went to a different doctor and I actually ended up inadvertently losing weight. It was just like an accident because she put me on this hormone medication that I needed and my body started regulating and doing more of what it needed to do and it didn't even try. So people like doctors specifically, really think loss is like. They think that being fat is a disease in itself and they're like it's causing all of your other problems. They don't think the other way. You know what I mean. Like my body is big because there's other things.
Speaker 2:And the reason I talk about that right is that that the literature if you go to any empirical resource, you look it up it does not say that obesity causes any of those diseases. They are correlated. There's a correlation between being in a larger body and high blood pressure and diabetes, but it doesn't mean that it's caused by it. And let's let's take this example of my dad recently went to the doctor. We, you know, I just I just bought a house and my dad is my roommate. My dad is my roommate and he moved in with me and and it was a very stressful process and he lost a good amount of weight in a month. And the doctors are like, congratulations. And he's like they're like, how did you do it? And he's like by not eating and by being stressed, and they're like well, you should still be proud. And he's like how is that so sorry?
Speaker 1:How was that?
Speaker 2:How is that healthcare when he's literally telling you he is starving himself or like not eating enough, he was not sleeping, he was overworking and you're gonna congratulate him? That to me I don't understand. How that's healthcare. I really don't.
Speaker 2:I think that healthcare has changed significantly. Where I know that I feel rushed in my appointments, like I don't feel, like the doctors take time to actually understand, and I think it's a scapegoat. I think it's really easy to put blame on weight without looking at any other features, and so for me, like when I go to the doctor, I'm actually going to the doctor. This week I have to put up really firm boundaries of I'm not having a conversation on my weight. You need to do your job and think outside of the box, because by just saying that my body size should change would fix this Again. There would be a correlation. You're fixing maybe the symptomology, but not the root issue. So do your job, do your job.
Speaker 2:I get so heated and we'll talk about one more thing is how about the mental and emotional wellbeing of people in larger bodies when they have to go to the doctors? There is research that supports that if you are in a larger body and you go to the doctor and you experience shame we call it weight-based discrimination that that can impact your health far more than the weight itself. Because what happens? You have an issue and you avoid going to the doctor, and then, when you go to the doctor, and then they shame you and they're like, well, you should just lose weight. So then how does that impact your treatment of care? It's really disheartening and folks who are listening to this I'm like, yes, I've thought this or I felt this. Medical fat phobia is so rampant. It is real. One of my favorite resources for that is my friend, reagan Chastain, and we actually have a podcast episode together where we talk about medicalized fat phobia.
Speaker 1:It's so real, honestly, and it's eye-opening. I had a really good doctor once that like so. The intern came in and I was at the time. I was like 220 and for me that's great. I was a track athlete and I was in high school. I was 17 years old. At 17, she starts spouting off BMI, yeah, and she's like you're over the BMI. She leaves and I say to the doctor I was like dude, I'm running like four miles a day. I'm a track athlete, like I was at the time. I was like looking at colleges, like I was a pretty good athlete through shot, put and discus, all these things. He was like girl, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:Lebron James is like in the obese category on the BMI. If it's just height weight ratio, it's not really science. I don't know why she said that to you You're fine, like great doctor. But then it continued to happen as soon as I 17, as soon as I became old enough, where they were like oh, she can handle being told she's fat, they were going to right and that's when the process started. Happening is they're like they always throw, even in childhood. They're like oh, she's in the 99th percentile, she's big, that's a good thing. And then, as soon as you're old enough to be perceived as fat, they flip that script. So it was always a positive thing that I was big as a child and then, as soon as I was like a teenager, they were like whoa, slow down, can't get any bigger, and they just yeah, doctors really do just push that narrative of being fat is such a medical issue.
Speaker 1:But there are underlying causes that can cause obesity as well, like we all know. I mean anybody that has PCOS knows that PCOS actually causes weight gain. I was not. You know what I mean? I was not nearly. I didn't know. Yeah right, I did not struggle nearly as much with weight until I was diagnosed. I noticed that switch of those hormones going up and all of that stuff. Sorry, I just cited a spider.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm feeling I would. The other day, like an ant crawled across my computer, I was like, ah, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:See, I got so nervous that I it's huge girl when I tell you I don't know how to get over there because it was running. I'm passive, aggressive. I'm not in a real good mood. Get him OK. Sorry, I had a panic attack.
Speaker 2:I can not touch the floor.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so wild. Okay, anyway, medical fat phobia sucks. That's what I have to say. Yeah, oh goodness, tell me a little bit about so. You are a counselor, but you also do coaching. I'm one of those as well. Tell me about how that. How does that work? What do you do With your clients? Are you in the counseling setting or you're in a coaching setting?
Speaker 2:Yeah, at this moment in time, I am 100% coaching and not counseling. I'd like to thank the pandemic for that. I was half and half before the pandemic and then, you know, I just my counseling clients were far more inconsistent. I only got paid when they showed up and so, yeah, I just started taking on more coaching clients and working for myself and and, and it allows me to be able to work with folks anywhere in the world and I would say the difference between, like coaching and counseling.
Speaker 2:I really work on those goals, those immediate goals, and we stay present and future focused, whereas in counseling we would probably go in the past and maybe look at you know what like and not only look at what's caused it. Because I'll do a little bit of that of like. I'll go, well, where did this come from? But then it's really bringing it back to the here and now. And how do you want to change your, your future like, how do you want to respond? How do you want to be able to do that? A lot of the folks that work with me also probably have a therapist or a dietician, because it can bring up a lot and there will be times I'm like this is something you should bring back to your therapist and this would be a good thing to bring back. And then I also do supervision for providers, because I know that there are folks out there who have clients who are struggling with body image and they really just they don't know how to hold this conversation.
Speaker 2:And this is kind of how my business grew was because I worked in eating disorder recovery and I have a client say to me like I want to work on body image, and I'd go back to my supervisor and be like, okay, she wants to work on body image. What do I say? And then she'll be like oh well, that's just going to come later. That's the last time to come. And then I go back and be like Well, body image is really the last time to come.
Speaker 2:And I had a client say to me no, I was a what do you mean? No, she was like no, if you want me to go eat lunch, you have to come body image image now. And so it forced me to do my own work and the resources were just lousy. It would be like oh, if you hate your body, say three nice things about your body. I was like I don't want to say anything to my body. And that's where, really, I kind of dug into this framework of Okay, how, like, what is, what is the story and the narrative that we're telling ourselves? Can we build awareness around that and what do we need to be able to shift that narrative?
Speaker 1:I love that. I think it's not. It's just not talked about how people ignore grief. They're just like no, you just love what is and you can, but at the same time, you have to understand what it's attached to. So I really, I really appreciate that and how. So tell me, how do people work with you outside of this podcast? How do they find you?
Speaker 2:I just want to tell you that and I just want to say one more thing Body love wasn't an option for me because of how marginalized my body felt, and so what I found is that self love was possible for me. It's possible for everyone. It's like you know, I'm drinking out of a cup, usually have like seven different drinks, so self love was being able to identify the contents of this cup could be poured into any container, and I'm still going to love what's in the container, no matter what the outside of the container looks like. So I'm obsessed with that, thanks. So, that being said, I have a lot of different ways that folks can work with me, so it depends on the time of year. So I usually recommend just checking out either the link in my bio on my Instagram page or on my podcast, because it'll have the most up to date, you know, information with my link and bio.
Speaker 2:For folks who are like yeah, I can get on board with this, I can get on board with this body grieving meth like message, I have a body groover's group. We just finished, or finishing up, our last round now and don't have any plans to start a new round until probably mid fall, so you can always get on the waitlist, I have a link on my Instagram page and then, if you're a provider I'm sorry not my Instagram page on my website, body image with free dot com, I have many different resources, including my. I call it my body image boot camp. Is where my signature, my signature course for providers to help you with that language piece when it comes to helping folks make peace with their here and our bodies without having to. You know all of all of the cellulite and you know all of the things that are perceived flaws. It's. It's a. It's a much more realistic approach, and so if you have any questions, you can always email me at hello dot. Body image with free at emailcom.
Speaker 1:I love it. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Everybody, please go find Bri. You know, go through that process. I think almost everybody has something they want to work on, so go find her. Thank you so much for listening. Remember that you're not alone and you got this healer. Thank you for listening to the found life podcast. For more information and to follow the show, please follow at found life pod on Instagram if you want to learn more from me. Tanisha, you can follow me at found by Tanisha on Instagram or visit found projectorg for more self help tools, just for you to improve your life. Don't forget to review the show notes if you would like more information from the guest. Don't forget to leave us a review if you love us, and don't forget to tune in every Thursday for more episodes.
